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Plug for users custom building new images! #3133
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I'd flip this around: our hubs should be a perfect environment for full-time work, in-depth. And then we can teach students how to replicate the experience locally as well. That's the path I'm pursuing in 159, and will explore it in-depth. Happy to share with other campus faculty my reasoning and approach. |
@fperez That will be a fantastic use-case! We will highlight your class as a case study to any faculty interested in doing similar stuff and also can make a connection (maybe at the end of the semester? if you are interested and have the time). On another note, Do you have a summary of the different activities students will perform using Datahub in this course? I have been trying to create a Datahub feature matrix and classify the features according to the complexity of the use case. Just started with this draft and your inputs will guide my thinking around what constitutes an advanced use case. |
Certainly @balajialg, happy to! Activities:
So far I'm teaching them how to work fully in JupyterLab + terminal, but I am starting to seriously consider the benefit of adding the virtual desktop package to our image to let them access some GUI applications occasionally. Not sure yet, but I'm starting to lean heavily towards yes, as I see more and more the value of them finding that the hub is a "suitable home for everything", and sometimes you do need GUI apps for certain tasks on the hub itself (QGIS is a good example of that need, but there are many more). If we decide to do more virtual desktop work, I think this would raise the pressure on updating the base image to something more recent than 18.04 (I understand the desire to stick to LTS images, but it would be even nicer to have the system be flexible enough to pick say a 21.04 or 21.10 image for a 2022 course, and simply refresh a year later). Having a very old base image isn't a big deal if all you're doing is running notebooks, but it's much more of a hindrance if you start using a bunch of Linux GUI tools and they are all horribly outdated. |
@fperez Wow, these are fascinating use cases! Thank you so much for taking the time to write the summary of student activities. Super inspiring and definitely will use this info to highlight hub's possibilities to interested faculty. Recently heard that the Dean of Civil Engineering reached out to multiple teams to gather solutions if they chose to move their labs to the cloud. They also have a few GUI-based applications that students will work on during the lab. Your class would be an ideal case study for them. [You may already know it but still] Sharing the info that EECS hub already has Linux Desktop Environment enabled as you can observe through this PR. It seems likely that Stat 159 hub will have a similar configuration like EECS hub (with reduced compute considering the student size) Tagging @yuvipanda @felder - Specific to your point about upgrading the base image from 18.0 to 21.10/21.04. Will this upgrade have any impact on the deployment for other hubs? |
Thanks @balajialg, happy to connect with others on campus about this, even before the end of the term. And yes- in fact I used the EECS This is becoming a fantastic setup! |
Thanks a lot, @fperez! Will keep you posted |
Summary
Recently was in a datahub onboarding meeting with an instructor who teaches an advanced class called Urban Informatics and Visualization. He came up with a request that I think deserves the team's attention from a product direction perspective. He felt that isolating students from git-related stuff works great at an introductory level. However, it is not helpful when they go to a professional setting where they are expected to set up their local development environment. So he is interested in using Datahub as a backup scenario only during edge cases where students cannot set up their environment locally.
In addition, he was curious whether students could make custom modifications to their conda environment in their instance of Datahub without the infra team's intervention. It reminded me of the justice innovation hub usecase that @yuvipanda is working on. It looks like instructors from a few advanced courses would benefit from this capability. I will watch out for other instructors who express interest in having such an usecase.
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